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narayanarvr
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:16 am Post subject: 3 Lack (=300,000) messages stuck in Transmission queue Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I am facing a problem, 3 lack messages stuck in transmission queue and in hung state, not clearing, what is the best way I could clear without loosing, and queue manager is running.
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exerk
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:35 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do the basic checks!

Check the queue manager logs to see what's in there, e.g. channel sequence number mismatch.

Just because the queue manager is running does not mean the channel is running, or the receiving queue manager is running.
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PaulClarke
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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What makes you think that the messages are there. Can you see them or are you just going by Queue depth. If the Queue Depth is always 3 then I think it is more likely that you have an application which has put the messages under syncpoint but forgotten to commit it. What does DIS QSTATUS(...) TYPE(QUEUE) UNCOM say ?

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exerk
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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PaulClarke wrote:
...If the Queue Depth is always 3...

Not 3 messages but 300,000 messages: 1 lakh = 100,000 in that part of the world
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:46 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
PaulClarke wrote:
...If the Queue Depth is always 3...

Not 3 messages but 300,000 messages: 1 lakh = 100,000 in that part of the world

I guess 1 lakh is 100,000 in every part of the world.
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exerk
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:53 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
exerk wrote:
PaulClarke wrote:
...If the Queue Depth is always 3...

Not 3 messages but 300,000 messages: 1 lakh = 100,000 in that part of the world

I guess 1 lakh is 100,000 in every part of the world.

At least in those parts that use the term...
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wikipedia says:
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A lakh (/ˈlk/ or /ˈlɑːk/; abbreviated L; sometimes written Lac or Lacs) is a unit in the Indian numbering system equal to one hundred thousand (100,000; scientific notation: 10 raised to the 5th power). In the Indian convention of digit grouping, it is written as 1,00,000.


The OP saved 4 keystrokes by using the multiplier "lakh." Math majors might have preferred 10 to the 5th. Clearly 300,000 is not exactly 300K messages (given K= 1024).

Other more or less precise multipliers:
"oodles" = "a very great number or amount of something."
"cacaload" = Spanish variant of "oodles" with a slight negative connotation (for example "cacaload of messages-in-error."

Do you have any favorite multipliers?
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exerk
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:00 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
...Do you have any favorite multipliers?

From a previous life: shed-loads (an uncountable number but usually describes an incoming, excessive amount of work)
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:39 am Post subject: Re: 3 Lack (=300,000) messages stuck in Transmission queue Reply with quote

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narayanarvr wrote:
I am facing a problem, 3 lack messages stuck in transmission queue and in hung state, not clearing, what is the best way I could clear without loosing, and queue manager is running.

On my 1st and subsequent reads of the OP, I presumed that a "lack message" was an application type or a message type, and not a multiplier. While I like Indian food, I'm not all that familiar their local idioms. I do have a rudimentary understanding of the 'head bob' things.

In the interest of precision and clarity, I'd ask the OP in future posts to use more common terminology - if it's a number, enter it as a number.

Thank you for your consideration.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:26 am Post subject: Re: 3 Lack (=300,000) messages stuck in Transmission queue Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
...While I like Indian food, I'm not all that familiar their local idioms. I do have a rudimentary understanding of the 'head bob' things...

All the joys of globalisation
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
From a previous life: shed-loads (an uncountable number but usually describes an incoming, excessive amount of work)


I like it when the radio traffic reports "a shed load on the motorway".....
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Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:02 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
(given K= 1024).
Do you have any favorite multipliers?

Clearly Bruce I'll have to disagree 1K is still 1,000 units (see Kg, Km, KJ etc...) Now if you are talking about KB or Kb this is then to be counted as 2 to the 10th power and equals 1024. (And yes it is the closest power of 2 to 1000).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
(given K= 1024).
Do you have any favorite multipliers?

Clearly Bruce I'll have to disagree 1K is still 1,000 units (see Kg, Km, KJ etc...) Now if you are talking about KB or Kb this is then to be counted as 2 to the 10th power and equals 1024. (And yes it is the closest power of 2 to 1000).

K is imprecise, as it can mean either x1000 or x1024.

What does the K in cereal Special K imply?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:57 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've never encountered the term "shed load". I first heard of "lakh" a few years ago, about the time I was first mystified by "do the needful". We live and learn.
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rekarm01
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:11 pm Post subject: 1 lakh = 1 hectokilo- ? Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Clearly Bruce I'll have to disagree 1K is still 1,000 units (see Kg, Km, KJ etc...)

'k' as in 'kilo' is lower-case, and represents a factor of 1,000, according to the SI.

Upper-case 'K', has usually been used informally to represent 1,000, and 'M' has sometimes been used to represent 1,024,000, but 'K', 'M' and 'G' have also been used more formally to represent powers of 1,024, specifically for describing computer memory capacity.

To avoid ambiguity, the IEC, among others, has published standards for separate binary prefixes about 20 years ago, but they haven't really caught on yet.
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