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mq__quest
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: MQ Advance Message Security Reply with quote

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KC says AMS is available with MQ Client, can a ams enabled mq client be used to send and receive encrypted messages to/from non ams enabled mq server component?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you mean AMS-encrypted, no.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
If you mean AMS-encrypted, no.


Yes, AMS encryption. If it can't then what is the purpose of having AMS included in client? SSL already does the encryption right?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mq__quest wrote:
exerk wrote:
Yes, AMS encryption. If it can't then what is the purpose of having AMS included in client? SSL already does the encryption right?


AMS requires a specific client that can prove it's allowed to receive the decrypted data. If you could retrieve the data from an encrypted queue by connecting with a normal client, that devalues the protection AMS provides.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
If you could retrieve the data from an encrypted queue by connecting with a normal client, that devalues the protection AMS provides.

Be careful with that line. The queue is not encrypted but rather the message and anyone with the correct OAM permission can get the message. The difference is that one user may not be able to decrypt the message, hence, they will receive a buffer of what appears to be crap.

i.e. An MQAmin that uses 'mqm' on Linux/Unix can browse/read all messages on a queue. The difference is that AMS will not decrypt if 'mqm' is not on the recipients list. Hence, 'mqm' will get the raw encrypted data.

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