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LMD
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:37 pm    Post subject: IBM MQ Appliance M2001 Reply with quote

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Announced today : http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP15-0069

Also some interesting clues on IBM MQ Console.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OMG - we're all out of a job...

But the security model might prove a challenge to for us to live with.

The data mirroring is interesting - like to see that in the standard MQ.
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Don't worry guys this will keep some of you gainfully employed for a long time
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To aid security, simplicity, and maintenance, MQ appliances are locked. No additional software can to be installed, such as user applications and user exits


WOT no User Exits?
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Better get those RFEs in quick.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A new post just found on the MQ messaging Blog :

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/messaging/entry/ibm_mq_console?lang=en

on the MQ console tool for M2000 appliance .
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I am reading the InterConnect presentation about MQAppliance (session AME 4166) and I have some questions ...

Page 25 : "A few new commands, such as dspmqerr"
dspmqerr ? a new command probably, not in 8.0.0.2.

And how about logs (S00000xx.LOG).
I know it will not be possible to install custom code on the device. So, no SupportPacks, like MS62, to handle purge of linear logs.

Does this mean that all Queue Manager will be with circular log?
Or that there will be (finally) a solution to manage linear logs within MQ?
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LMD wrote:
Does this mean that all Queue Manager will be with circular log?


This is what I'm told.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:22 am    Post subject: Just a question Reply with quote

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Does the launch of new IBM MQ Appliance means that MQ wil not be available as a software product ? Or its just another way how reliable messaging can be provided in the form of an appliance ?
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Anant.v wrote:
Does the launch of new IBM MQ Appliance means that MQ wil not be available as a software product ?

Considering the user base and revenue, especially on z/OS, I would very much doubt that it's likely to disappear...
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Anant.v wrote:
Does the launch of new IBM MQ Appliance means that MQ wil not be available as a software product ? Or its just another way how reliable messaging can be provided in the form of an appliance ?


The Price of these appliances (Due to PVU type licensing) is going to make them well outside the scope for a good percentage of MQ Customers.
We generally sell 140PVU servers. These units whilst nice are specced for approx an order of magnitude higher that this (At least)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Just a question Reply with quote

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Anant.v wrote:
Does the launch of new IBM MQ Appliance means that MQ wil not be available as a software product ?




Anant.v wrote:
Or its just another way how reliable messaging can be provided in the form of an appliance ?




There's a rather good presentation on the Global Websphere Community website somewhere from Lief Davidson that talks about the possible use cases and placement of the appliance. Mr Google can find it for you.
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Anybody want to place any bets on when IIB will be available as an appliance.....?
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Vitor wrote:
Anybody want to place any bets on when IIB will be available as an appliance.....?

What, with an A model that gives you one EG and a B model that's astronomical in price?
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exerk wrote:
Vitor wrote:
Anybody want to place any bets on when IIB will be available as an appliance.....?

What, with an A model that gives you one EG and a B model that's astronomical in price?


Probably.
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I'd be surprised if it did. IBM's general direction is away from appliances.

I'd expect to see something like a cloud offering, where you can pay by transactions/invocations of message flows, on a managed service.
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