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| DP1234 |
 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:36 am Post subject: Issue in Defining DFDL Parser for a scenario |
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Hi All
Am trying to create a parser for the below scenario
HeaderASampleTrailer
HeaderBSampleXTrailer
HeaderCSampTrailer
First 6 character are related to Header
After 6 character
if Starts with "A" next 6 character is payload and beyond that is trailer
if Starts with "B" next 7 character is payload and beyond that is trailer
if Starts with "C" next 4 character is payload and beyond that is trailer
(These are just random numbers which am using to explain scenario)
My question is
Which is efficient way to create a parser for above scenario.?
Is it possible to create a DFDL parser for this scenario.?
Am trying to create DFDL parser for same...in Length option am using "XPATH Expression Builder" to define certain function
to implement above logic...is it possible to create using this process?
Searched in IBM website aswell forum regarding "XPATH Expression Builder" didn't find one...
can anybdy help in defining 'IF ELSE' logic in expression builder
Please Help, Thanks |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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In MRM this would be tagged-fixed length data, with each of the A,B,C being in a choice.
structurally something like
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Header - fixed length 6
sequence
choice
ARecord - tag 'A'
sequence
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BRecord - tag 'B'
sequence
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In DFLD these are initiators, not tags. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Issue in Defining DFDL Parser for a scenario |
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| DP1234 wrote: |
| can anybdy help in defining 'IF ELSE' logic in expression builder |
Why do you need this? To me, your model (using your posted example and accepting this simply illustrates the issue) looks like:
Item - fixed length 6 character header
Item - Identity A, fixed length 6 character field, field until end of data
Item - Identity B, fixed length 7 character field, field until end of data
Item - Identity C, fixed length 4 character field, field until end of data
So all you need is 3 descriptions in DFDL for the 3 possible item types, and a way to identify which is which (A,B or C) and a description of your header.
Sorted. Even if A,B & C have significantly more complex structures.
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Issue in Defining DFDL Parser for a scenario |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| DP1234 wrote: |
| can anybdy help in defining 'IF ELSE' logic in expression builder |
Why do you need this? To me, your model (using your posted example and accepting this simply illustrates the issue) looks like:
Item - fixed length 6 character header
Item - Identity A, fixed length 6 character field, field until end of data
Item - Identity B, fixed length 7 character field, field until end of data
Item - Identity C, fixed length 4 character field, field until end of data
So all you need is 3 descriptions in DFDL for the 3 possible item types, and a way to identify which is which (A,B or C) and a description of your header.
Sorted. Even if A,B & C have significantly more complex structures. |
Bolded Part is wat am not able to achieve as am working on DFDL for first time. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Issue in Defining DFDL Parser for a scenario |
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| DP1234 wrote: |
| Bolded Part is wat am not able to achieve as am working on DFDL for first time. |
Start here 
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| kimbert |
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No time to reply in detail now, but there are two posts that discuss this. Search for 'DFDL body trailer discriminator' and you should find them.
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I've achieved most of the part in developing DFDL parser for above scenario...thanks for the link vitor
Now am stuck in looping over all payload elements
DFDL parser looks like
Header
Payload
sequence
A
B
Trailer
Ideally Payload has to occur only once under which all c1,E3 should appear though declared in any order
am not able loop over properly
say data is in format Header,Adata,Bdata,Adata,Adata,Adata,Bdata,Trailer
If i make payload as unbounded
i get structure like
Header
payload
A
B
payload
A
A
A
B
Trailer
if payload max occurs is 1 (ideally t has to be 1)
Header
payload
A
B
Trailer
am facing issue here in looping over
Can anybdy tell correct way to loop over and get all payload data in one tag |
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:03 am Post subject: |
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this is how need the data to appear
Header
payload
A
B
A
A
A
B
Trailer |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| DP1234 wrote: |
| Can anybdy tell correct way to loop over and get all payload data in one tag |
Why are you trying to loop through the model? Why not read the records as records, and assemble the data into the output as required.
It's probably possible to twist DFDL into doing this. It's almost certainly better to actually write some code to do this.
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| DP1234 wrote: |
| Can anybdy tell correct way to loop over and get all payload data in one tag |
Why are you trying to loop through the model? Why not read the records as records, and assemble the data into the output as required.
It's probably possible to twist DFDL into doing this. It's almost certainly better to actually write some code to do this. |
Thanks for reply vitor
Is it really possible to get output like this by anyway
Header
payload
A
B
A
A
A
B
Trailer
Currently am getting like this
Header
payload
A
B
payload
A
A
A
B
Trailer |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:22 am Post subject: |
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OK. So what you need to define is:
Header -- min 1 max 1
Payload --min 1 max 1
sequence -- min 1 max unbounded
A -- min 1 max 1
B -- min 0 max 1
Trailer -- min 1 max 1
Have fun with it 
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Probably best if you do this:
1. Provide an example input message.
2. Provide an example message tree structure for the input message. Please use [c o d e] tags so that we can see the structure clearly.
3. Post your DFDL xsd, or else describe its structure clearly.
I can understand your requirements ( sort of ) but I don't want to give advice based on partial info.
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
OK. So what you need to define is:
Header -- min 1 max 1
Payload --min 1 max 1
sequence -- min 1 max unbounded
A -- min 1 max 1
B -- min 0 max 1
Trailer -- min 1 max 1
Have fun with it |
we Cant set sequence as unbounded...DFDL doesnt lets to do this i believe
Last edited by DP1234 on Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:33 am; edited 1 time in total |
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| DP1234 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| kimbert wrote: |
Probably best if you do this:
1. Provide an example input message.
2. Provide an example message tree structure for the input message. Please use [c o d e] tags so that we can see the structure clearly.
3. Post your DFDL xsd, or else describe its structure clearly.
I can understand your requirements ( sort of ) but I don't want to give advice based on partial info. |
Sample input message
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EDDF4566855555555555A45896B5666A45896A45896B566600000
Here
Header: EDDF4566855555555555
A Data (Initiator A Length 5) : 45896
B Data (Initiator B Length 4) : 5666
Trailer: 00000
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Data can appear any times any order
Currently i achieved to get tree structure like
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Header
EDDF4566855555555555
Record
A
45896
Record
B
5666
Record
A
45896
Record
A
45896
Record
B
5666
Trailer
00000
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Which is the best tree structure can we create for this type of data structure |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| DP1234 wrote: |
| fjb_saper wrote: |
OK. So what you need to define is:
Header -- min 1 max 1
Payload --min 1 max 1
sequence -- min 1 max unbounded
A -- min 1 max 1
B -- min 0 max 1
Trailer -- min 1 max 1
Have fun with it |
we Cant set sequence as unbounded...DFDL doesnt lets to do this i believe |
So create a repetitive payloaditem complex type with the sequence.
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Header
Payload
PayloadItem (1 to n)
sequence
A min 1
B min 0
Trailer |
as long as your structure matches the data you're all good
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