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bkiran2020
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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I have two queue manager QM1 and QM2 full repository.
On QM1 qmgr:
DEF QL(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)
On QM2 qmgr:
DEF QL(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)

I have shared same queue in cluster for workload balance but it is not working.

I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.


And does whatever you're using to put the messages honour the default binding attribute? Or does it just do a bind on open?

Do both queue managers have CLUSUSEQ set appropriately?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.


And does whatever you're using to put the messages honour the default binding attribute? Or does it just do a bind on open?

Do both queue managers have CLUSUSEQ set appropriately?


Iam using amqsput commmand to put the messages on the queue.not sure amqsput how it bind.

I have not set the CLUSUSEQ attribute.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.

That doesn't answer the question - did you put three messages in the same 'session', or execute amqsput three times?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.


does amqsput.0.c indicate that it uses BIND_AS_Q_DEF, or does it indicate that it uses BIND_ON_OPEN?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.

That doesn't answer the question - did you put three messages in the same 'session', or execute amqsput three times?



I have tried both ways..
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried both ways..



And I repeat my question (also asked by my most worthy associate) - is amqsput explicitly doing a bind on open?

I also ask again about the CLUSUSEQ attribute.

Can we also assume (as you've not bothered to mention it) that this is an out-of-the box cluster with the channel settings unchanged from the defaults?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
exerk wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.

That doesn't answer the question - did you put three messages in the same 'session', or execute amqsput three times?



I have tried both ways..

How have you tried both ways? How have you tried what both ways? Please be precise in your posts.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.


Here's another series of questions:

- which queue manager are you connected to when you put these messages?
- do they always go to the same instance of the queue?
- does this behaviour change when you put messages to the other queue manager?
- are all the cluster channels running and everything else about the cluster working? Or have you just run all the defintions, assumed it's ok, banged off a few messages and posted here when it didn't work? What did you check before posting?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
exerk wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.

Do you mean that you executed one application one time to put 3 messages? Or do you mean that you executed one application three times to put one message in each execution?


Iam using amqsput command to put the messages on the queue.

That doesn't answer the question - did you put three messages in the same 'session', or execute amqsput three times?



I have tried both ways..

How have you tried both ways? How have you tried what both ways? Please be precise in your posts.


I have executed amqsput three times and put three messages in the same session...

PS C:\Windows\system32> amqsput TESTQ.TESTCLUS QM1
Sample AMQSPUT0 start
target queue is TESTQ.TESTCLUS
1
2

PS C:\Windows\system32> amqsput TESTQ.TESTCLUS QM1
Sample AMQSPUT0 start
target queue is TESTQ.TESTCLUS
1

Sample AMQSPUT0 end
PS C:\Windows\system32>
PS C:\Windows\system32> amqsput TESTQ.TESTCLUS QM1
Sample AMQSPUT0 start
target queue is TESTQ.TESTCLUS
2
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
bkiran2020 wrote:
I have tried to put 3 messages it going to one queue.


Here's another series of questions:

- which queue manager are you connected to when you put these messages?
- do they always go to the same instance of the queue?
- does this behaviour change when you put messages to the other queue manager?
- are all the cluster channels running and everything else about the cluster working? Or have you just run all the defintions, assumed it's ok, banged off a few messages and posted here when it didn't work? What did you check before posting?


I have not changed the CLWLUSEQ attribute.

- which queue manager are you connected to when you put these messages?

used both the qmgr QM1 and QM2 for put these messages.

- do they always go to the same instance of the queue?

message are going to which qmgr Iam connecting to put the message

- does this behaviour change when you put messages to the other queue manager?

same behaviour

- are all the cluster channels running and everything else about the cluster working? Or have you just run all the defintions, assumed it's ok, banged off a few messages and posted here when it didn't work? What did you check before posting?[/quote]


on QM1
dis chs(*)
2 : dis chs(*)
AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(TO.QM1.TESTCLUS) CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR)
CONNAME(127.0.0.1) CURRENT
RQMNAME(QM2) STATUS(RUNNING)
SUBSTATE(RECEIVE)
AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(TO.QM2.TESTCLUS) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR)
CONNAME(127.0.0.1(3557)) CURRENT
RQMNAME(QM2) STATUS(RUNNING)
SUBSTATE(MQGET) XMITQ(SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE)
dis clusqmgr(*)
3 : dis clusqmgr(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(QM1) CHANNEL(TO.QM1.TESTCLUS)
CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(QM2) CHANNEL(TO.QM2.TESTCLUS)
CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)


dis qc(*) all
1 : dis qc(*) all
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
ALTDATE(2014-09-15) ALTTIME(20.15.55)
CLUSDATE(2014-09-15) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
CLUSQMGR(QM2) CLUSQT(QLOCAL)
CLUSTIME(20.15.55) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFPRESP(SYNC) DESCR( )
PUT(ENABLED) QMID(QM2_2014-09-15_20.11.17)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
ALTDATE(2014-09-15) ALTTIME(20.11.04)
CLUSDATE(2014-09-15) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
CLUSQMGR(QM1) CLUSQT(QLOCAL)
CLUSTIME(20.11.03) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFPRESP(SYNC) DESCR( )
PUT(ENABLED) QMID(QM1_2014-09-15_20.10.26)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.


on QMg2

dis chs(*)
1 : dis chs(*)
AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(TO.QM1.TESTCLUS) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR)
CONNAME(127.0.0.1(3556)) CURRENT
RQMNAME(QM1) STATUS(RUNNING)
SUBSTATE(MQGET) XMITQ(SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE)
AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(TO.QM2.TESTCLUS) CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR)
CONNAME(127.0.0.1) CURRENT
RQMNAME(QM1) STATUS(RUNNING)
SUBSTATE(RECEIVE)
dis clusqmgr(*)
2 : dis clusqmgr(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(QM1) CHANNEL(TO.QM1.TESTCLUS)
CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(QM2) CHANNEL(TO.QM2.TESTCLUS)
CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
dis qc(*)
3 : dis qc(*)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ2.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
dis qc(*) all
4 : dis qc(*) all
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
ALTDATE(2014-09-15) ALTTIME(20.15.55)
CLUSDATE(2014-09-15) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
CLUSQMGR(QM2) CLUSQT(QLOCAL)
CLUSTIME(20.15.55) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFPRESP(SYNC) DESCR( )
PUT(ENABLED) QMID(QM2_2014-09-15_20.11.17)
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
QUEUE(TESTQ.TESTCLUS) TYPE(QCLUSTER)
ALTDATE(2014-09-15) ALTTIME(20.11.04)
CLUSDATE(2014-09-15) CLUSTER(TESTCLUS)
CLUSQMGR(QM1) CLUSQT(QLOCAL)
CLUSTIME(20.12.00) CLWLPRTY(0)
CLWLRANK(0) DEFBIND(NOTFIXED)
DEFPRTY(0) DEFPSIST(NO)
DEFPRESP(SYNC) DESCR( )
PUT(ENABLED) QMID(QM1_2014-09-15_20.10.26)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: CLuster workload balance Reply with quote

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bkiran2020 wrote:
I have not changed the CLWLUSEQ attribute.


I didn't ask if you'd changed it, I asked what it was set to.

I don't see anything here that proves that you're not doing a bind on open.
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By default, it will only go to the Qmgr you are connected to because it hosts a local copy of the queue. You have to set CLWLUSE(ANY) to get load balancing when connected to a Qmgr that host the cluster queue.

Or create another Qmgr, put it in the cluster and try it there without a local queue in the cluster.

Moderator, this is a cluster topic...
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