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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:38 pm    Post subject: Standard Mode only allows one Execution Group, but... Reply with quote

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Standard Mode only allows one Execution Group, but what's to prevent me from creating multiple Brokers on the same server each with one Execution Group?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AFAIK, nothing.

But the standard answer is

'Refer to your IBM Representative'

You had better watch out for an inspection from FAST (or its local equivalent).



However you have raised a very good question.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
Trust.


There certainly nothing written that says I can't have more than 1 Broker per server in Standard mode.

Are you saying IBM is trusting us to infer we should not create more than one Broker in Standard mode, and then trusting us not to do it?


I have reached out to my friendly IBM Sales Rep asking for pricing on these options (we always just went with Advanced), and have asked about this point as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're licensed for PVUs, right? That means, for a single Standard edition, you are licensed to run one execution group on X PVUs.

And, yes, IBM is trusting you not to break the contract of that license.

Just like it's trusting you to actually set the broker to run in Standard mode, rather than enterprise mode.
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mqjeff wrote:
You're licensed for PVUs, right? That means, for a single Standard edition, you are licensed to run one execution group on X PVUs.

And, yes, IBM is trusting you not to break the contract of that license.

Just like it's trusting you to actually set the broker to run in Standard mode, rather than enterprise mode.


This is where I'd be like Peter completely in the unclear
Does this mean licensed for one execution group on x pvus or mean licensed for x pvus to run y brokers with only one execution group per broker.

i.e. you are limited to 1 eg per broker and limited by the hardware to the number of brokers it can support on your given number of PVUs ...

As always only the IBM REP has authoritative answer to that question...
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mqjeff wrote:
You're licensed for PVUs, right? That means, for a single Standard edition, you are licensed to run one execution group on X PVUs.

So I'm with you - we can probably guess that the spirit of the rule is one EG per broker, one Broker per server (or more rightly per set of licensed processing cores).

But that is not detailed anywhere.

Maybe they really do only care about one EG per Broker, and if you are willing to incur the processing and administrative overhead of multiple Brokers each with one EG, have at it.

The fact that we're having the discussion means there's room for clarifying doc. My intent in posting was someone digging up a link to something that explicitly talks about this.
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