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MQ_Lover
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 15 Jul 2013
Posts: 67

Hi Rammer - I have done a RESET cluster on one of the full repositories and now see that broken Queue Manager reference is no more there means on DIS CLUSQMGR it says below

CSQO030I No objects of type CLUSQMGR match QMGRNAME.

And looks good on all Full Repositories.

But on the Windows Queue Manager still the auto-defined CLUSSDR channels are in RETRYING state, how do I get rid off them any idea?

This is what is still there as of now in Windows Queue Manager

I have ***** out the real names

dis clusqmgr(*)
9 : dis clusqmgr(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(*****) CHANNEL(******)
CLUSTER(CLUS)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(*****) CHANNEL(*******)
CLUSTER(CLUS)


dis chs(*)


AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(******) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR)
CONNAME(******(2305)) CURRENT
RQMNAME( ) STATUS(RETRYING)
SUBSTATE( ) XMITQ(SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE)


AMQ8417: Display Channel Status details.
CHANNEL(******) CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR)
CONNAME(******(2205)) CURRENT
RQMNAME( ) STATUS(RETRYING)
SUBSTATE( ) XMITQ(SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE)
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you may need to remove from the SCTQ all messages to a clustered destination, before you can get rid of the cluster information...
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rammer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partisan

Joined: 02 May 2002
Posts: 359
Location: England

Have you tried, stopping the channels, or stop / starting the Queue Manager to see if that clears them out.

If it doesnot then you may need to clear the messages off the SCTQ.
Also on the windows Queue Manager what is the output of
DISC CLUSQMR(*)

And I think you said earlier you deleted the defined cluster / sender channels?
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poobah

Joined: 15 May 2001
Posts: 7717

MQ_Lover wrote:

But on the Windows Queue Manager still the auto-defined CLUSSDR channels are in RETRYING state, how do I get rid off them any idea?


You want to remove the Windows QM from the cluster, but it still shows automatic cluster channels?

Follow the steps to properly remove a QM from a cluster:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzah.doc/qc12130_.htm

In particular, pay attention to Step 8.
Quote:
Issue the REFRESH CLUSTER command on TORONTO queue manager to remove any auto-defined cluster channels.


Don't run off and run that command. Read the whole article and make sure you do all the steps that apply first, then issue the refresh command to purge any auto cluster channels.
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JosephGramig
PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Location: Gold Coast of Florida, USA

In the future when a Qmgr cannot resolve a host name in the DNS for whatever reason, you should add that host name and IP to your /etc/hosts file which may be at C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts in Windows.

You should never put the IP address in the CONNAME as that address is sure to change one day.

On the 3 FR issue if you insist in having more than two FRs, ensure each FR has an explicit cluster sender to all other FRs (in your case two). This is because an FR will only forward cluster updates to other FRs to which it has an explicit cluster sender channel.

If you find that you did not have explicit cluster senders at each FR to all other FRs, then you can be sure you have a fragmented cluster. What is the resolution? Well, you could demote all but one FR to PRs and refresh those with a REPOS(YES) and promote them back to FRs. Or you can issue REFRESH CLUSTER(...) REPOS(YES) at each and every PR (once you have corrected your FR cluster senders).

Of course, you could just correct the FRs cluster senders and only refresh cluster as you come across issues... Which will dog you forever.
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