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| PEPERO |
 Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:22 am Post subject: Message Set/Flow definition using WMB 7 console command |
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Hi;
I'm using the trial version of the WMB 7.0.0.2 and i want to know if it's possible to define the message flows (and message sets) using the console commands.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Message Set/Flow definition using WMB 7 console command |
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| PEPERO wrote: |
| I'm using the trial version of the WMB 7.0.0.2 and i want to know if it's possible to define the message flows (and message sets) using the console commands. |
Define how? If you mean define the message flows & message sets the broker is to use then yes, there are commands you can use as described in the documentation.
If you mean define message flows and message sets in terms of development, then no. But since it's clearly ridiculous to expect to be able to define a graphical item like a flow via a console command I suspect that's not what you mean, so you might do well to rephrase the question if you don't mean deploy. 
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| PEPERO |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to use the WMB V7 trial version to define a TCPIP node to receive a message from a client application and send it to the server application through the sockets. I'm using the consol command to define the broker , and i'm going to define the message flows to exchange the message through the WMB but I've not found a related mqsi consol command to define the message flow or configuring the related nodes.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| PEPERO wrote: |
| I've not found a related mqsi consol command to define the message flow or configuring the related nodes. |
Ah. Then my comment:
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| it's clearly ridiculous to expect to be able to define a graphical item like a flow via a console command |
applies. 
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| PEPERO |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| So what's the trial version for? |
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| PEPERO wrote: |
| So what's the trial version for? |
Hey Vitor, do you think we could recommend the WMB Developer class to our friend?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| PEPERO wrote: |
| So what's the trial version for? |
Trialing the product before buying it. It works the same way as the full version in that graphical components like flows can't be created or defined via console commands in the licensed version either.
I still feel we're at cross purposes somehow. Because I still refuse to believe that you believe you can draw things with console commands. Or that you'd want to.
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Hey Vitor, do you think we could recommend the WMB Developer class to our friend? |
I doubt anything will stop you.
I doubt he considers me a friend at this point.
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| PEPERO |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Dear vito;
I do know it's clearly ridiculous to expect to be able to define a graphical item like a flow via a console command ,But the only thing that is prepared at the trial version is the consol command not the toolkit.
i've been confused about the advantage of the IBM WMB trial version.
trail of what? |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| i've been confused about the advantage of the IBM WMB trial version. trail of what? |
WMB comes in two parts. A "toolkit" that is an Eclipse-based development environment and a "runtime" that is the engine.
Both of these parts are downloadable as trial, so you can run them without license. You use the "toolkit" part to design the functions within an Eclipse environment, then you deploy those designs to a "runtime".
My compadre Vitor is pointing out that designing a message flow using a command line utility is illogical. No one would want to do it, and there is no point.
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Both of these parts are downloadable as trial, so you can run them without license. |
Both pedantically & legally, you run them under the terms of the trial license not without license.
One specific limitation of the trial license is the length of time it's valid (90 days) after which the software is unlicensed because the license is expired.
I know that's what you meant, but I felt some clarification was needed as I'd hate anyone to get the idea we're claiming IBM software is free (especially IBM's legal department!).
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Oh.Thats the key.
thanks so much lancelotlinc & vitor for your answers. |
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| lancelotlinc |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Both of these parts are downloadable as trial, so you can run them without license. |
Both pedantically & legally, you run them under the terms of the trial license not without license.
One specific limitation of the trial license is the length of time it's valid (90 days) after which the software is unlicensed because the license is expired.
I know that's what you meant, but I felt some clarification was needed as I'd hate anyone to get the idea we're claiming IBM software is free (especially IBM's legal department!). |
Excellent clarification sir. BTW - just got back from Philippines, absolutely the best ten days of my life.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Oh.Thats the key. |
If you didn't know that, and hadn't determined that from your reading, then training is certainly a good idea.
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