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| shashivarungupta |
 Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:15 am Post subject: MQSC Mode |
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Hi All,
Following is the Text from ibm site, which tells about the modes of MQSC commands.
Run command indirectly
Run MQSC commands on a remote queue manager. These commands are put on the command queue on a remote queue manager and run in the order in which they were queued. [b]Reports from the commands are returned to the local queue manager.
Indirect mode operation is performed through the default queue manager.
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Can anyone explain what does that italics sentence mean? I am not clear about that.
Another question is:
I have created a queue manager "SampleQM" which is remote to my machine. And its command server is running.
Now I have added this "SampleQM" to my local machine in the MQ Explorer successfully.
When i run following command:
C:\>runmqsc -w 100 SampleQM
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2004. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager SampleQM.
AMQ8146: WebSphere MQ queue manager not available.
No MQSC commands read.
0 command responses received.
Above response I get.
Do I need to give commands in the following fashion always?
runmqsc -w 30 -v SampleQM < myprog.in > myprog.out
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:24 am Post subject: Re: MQSC Mode |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| Can anyone explain what does that italics sentence mean? I am not clear about that. |
It's possible to administer a remote queue manager (in the WMQ sense remote) using runmqsc. The section you highlight is discussing that.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| I have created a queue manager "SampleQM" which is remote to my machine. |
Be clear on terms here - a "remote" queue manager in terms of the documentation is "not the one you're connected to".
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| Now I have added this "SampleQM" to my local machine in the MQ Explorer successfully. |
Yes, but it's still remote.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
When i run following command:
[color=brown]C:\>runmqsc -w 100 SampleQM
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2004. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager SampleQM.
AMQ8146: WebSphere MQ queue manager not available. |
Because it's not local to your machine. The fact that you've cliented to it via MQExplorer changes nothing.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
Do I need to give commands in the following fashion always?
runmqsc -w 30 -v SampleQM < myprog.in > myprog.out
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You need the -v if it's remote, and you need a route by which commands can pass from the local default queue manager to the remote one. Indirecting files is probably easier in this scenario but not essential.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| You need the -v if it's remote, and you need a route by which commands can pass from the local default queue manager to the remote one. |
I tried using -v as:
C:\>runmqsc -w 100 -v SampleQM
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2004. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager SampleQM.
display qmgr
1 : display qmgr
end
2 : end
One MQSC command read.
But as we know, -v is the flag to verify the command, not to execute them and this is verify mode which is available on a local queue managers.
And we have also read that when -w option is there -v is being ignored.
Do you have an example to administer a queue manager which is on remote machine, using mqcs command? (which will use local default queue manager)
I know it uses Escape PCFs, but how I dont know. Can you please give me an example to that?
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| But as we know, -v is the flag to verify the command, not to execute them and this is verify mode which is available on a local queue managers. |
Sorry, sorry, had a senior moment there! 
You're quite right, I'm talking rubbish about the -v being necessary. A good idea but not necessary.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| Do you have an example to administer a queue manager which is on remote machine, using mqcs command? (which will use local default queue manager) |
I can do no better than point you to the documentation on this.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| I know it uses Escape PCFs, but how I dont know. |
No, just uses standard script.
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I can do no better than point you to the documentation on this.
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It would be great if I'll get some examples on that. 
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I can do no better than point you to the documentation on this.
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It would be great if I'll get some examples on that. |
I was thinking of here myself. 
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| shashivarungupta |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
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I can do no better than point you to the documentation on this.
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It would be great if I'll get some examples on that. |
I was thinking of here myself. |
Thanks Vitor.
In this link
I can see how its happening behind the stage !! But here I don't see the example for that.
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| But here I don't see the example for that. |
Examples for what? Seriously, I don't understand your question. Examples of how to link the queue managers together? It's perfectly standard stuff, you just have to ensure that there's a default route to and from the queue managers in question (e.g. transmission queue named for the queue manager it targets).
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| Vitor wrote: |
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| But here I don't see the example for that. |
Examples for what? Seriously, I don't understand your question. Examples of how to link the queue managers together? It's perfectly standard stuff, you just have to ensure that there's a default route to and from the queue managers in question (e.g. transmission queue named for the queue manager it targets). |
No. I didn't mean that.
Anyways.. i'll find it out. and will be back. 
Thank you.
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| No. I didn't mean that. |
I can't help feeling I'm missing something. Again. 
Anyway, just tried it (to ensure no other "senior moments" have crept into my advice) and it works as advertisied. So you should be fine.
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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If you are looking at executing mqsc commands against a remote qmgr without having MQServer installed on your machine, look at support pack MO72. You will need the MQClient installed and the qmgr must accept a client connection. (i.e. have a svrconn channel)....
You could also use the corresponding MQExplorer plugin. (Can't remember the support pack # for that one)
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| You could also use the corresponding MQExplorer plugin. (Can't remember the support pack # for that one) |
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hello all,
i am susan here i wnat to knwo if mqsc commands against a remote qmgr without having MQServer installed on your machine will work
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thanks in advance
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Back to the original post:
With the -w switch, runmqsc connects to the default qmgr. When you create a qmgr, you can specify if it is to be the default. Default here means that apps that MQCONNect without specifying a particular qmgr, will connect to the default.
The -w switch on runmqsc indicates that the qmgr named is remote (at the other end of a sender-reciever channel, for example); AND that the qmgr named in the runmqsc command is actually the name of the transmission queue (on the default qmgr) that the sender channel takes messages from.
The subsequent mqsc commands (PCF-wrapped) will be delivered to the transmission queue on the default qmgr, sent to the remote qmgr, and placed on the command queue at the remote qmgr. Thus -w means remote admin.
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| susanspy wrote: |
i wnat to knwo if mqsc commands against a remote qmgr without having MQServer installed on your machine will work
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