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vmanel
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:52 am    Post subject: Difference between MQTT pub sub and MQ pub sub Reply with quote

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What is the difference between,
1) Setting topic string in MQRFH2.psc.topic in esql of the message flow in IIB, and then using the publication node for publishing. Topic is not created in MQ, but only subscriptions are created in MQ for that Topic string. I am assuming that here the method used is MQTT pub.
2) Using an MQ output node in flow which is an Alias Queue, whose base type is Topic. And that Topic is created in MQ and subscriptions are created in MQ for that topic. Here MQ Topics are used for publishing

What is the difference between using IIB's inbuilt PubSub and MQ PubSub? How to decide in which scenario which method should be used?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between MQTT pub sub and MQ pub sub Reply with quote

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vmanel wrote:
I am assuming that here the method used is MQTT pub.


No it isn't. The clue is that you're using an MQRFH2 header.

vmanel wrote:
What is the difference between using IIB's inbuilt PubSub and MQ PubSub?


The difference is that IIB doesn't have an inbuilt method.

The question you're asking is under what circumstances would you define a Topic object inside MQ to control it's pub/sub behavior and under what circumstances would you not. Having a predefined topic inside MQ is not a prerequisite for either publishing or subscribing.
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vmanel
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between MQTT pub sub and MQ pub sub Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
The difference is that IIB doesn't have an inbuilt method.


Then what is MQTT pubsub, isnt that built in IIB broker?

Vitor wrote:
The question you're asking is under what circumstances would you define a Topic object inside MQ to control it's pub/sub behavior and under what circumstances would you not. Having a predefined topic inside MQ is not a prerequisite for either publishing or subscribing.


Yes, my question is how will these two method[that is directly publishing to a topic string using MQRFH2 without MQ topic and publishing by creating an MQ topic] make a difference?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Difference between MQTT pub sub and MQ pub sub Reply with quote

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vmanel wrote:
Vitor wrote:
The difference is that IIB doesn't have an inbuilt method.


Then what is MQTT pubsub, isnt that built in IIB broker?


You're mixing methods. IIB uses MQTT for the internal messages that used to be published to remove the dependency on a queue manager. That's not what you're using with the Publication node.

vmanel wrote:
Vitor wrote:
The question you're asking is under what circumstances would you define a Topic object inside MQ to control it's pub/sub behavior and under what circumstances would you not. Having a predefined topic inside MQ is not a prerequisite for either publishing or subscribing.


Yes, my question is how will these two method[that is directly publishing to a topic string using MQRFH2 without MQ topic and publishing by creating an MQ topic] make a difference?


It makes exactly the same difference as if you're using something else (like a C++ or Java app) to publish or subscribe via MQ.

The short answer (and if you want a longer answer, ask in the MQ section of this forum) is that a topic object is an administrative device to control 1-n publications. If you don't specify a topic object (what you call 'directly publishing") then your publication is under the administrative control of the default system topic object "/". There's no difference to the publisher or the subscriber, the difference is how the queue manager managers.
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