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harimhkr
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
Is the transaction worth one cent? One million dollars? While you may have technical skills to do either, what business rules apply? Should the transaction be committed? Or backed out?


since the application owners and team saying we don't have any issues and we see everything fine i consider them as no value( junk)
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and now if i remove then there will be no msgage or uncomit msg to display ...... now no finger pointing can be done
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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harimhkr wrote:

since the application owners and team saying we don't have any issues and we see everything fine i consider them as no value( junk)
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and now if i remove then there will be no msgage or uncomit msg to display ...... now no finger pointing can be done

You must be very new to system administration, to MQ, to IT, to believe that you will not be blamed should this go badly.

I'd run this by IT management and/or auditors. I'd get written acknowledgement from management that they understand the risks of summarily removing transactional messages without knowing anything about them.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
You must be very new to system administration, to MQ, to IT, to believe that you will not be blamed should this go badly.





You removed the messages = your fault
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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harimhkr wrote:
i consider them as no value( junk)
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I gather that you did not develop the application(s). As a system administrator, you can not and should not make such a value judgement.

Is the qmgr in PROD? Or TEST? If TEST, how will you deal with future orphaned messages?

More generally, what best-practice business policy will you follow should this happen again?
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