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rammer
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:34 am    Post subject: Future of MQ Reply with quote

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Hi All,

So after 17+ years doing MQ / MB / DP admin I was made redundant (all offshored) beginning of the year. I had plenty of opportunities to move to other companies to be a MQ Admin but it meant long commute hours which I didn't really want to do.

In the end I took a local role that meant me gaining experience in AWS but its slow going really, and not really floating my boat.

I have opportunity to move back to an MQ Admin role with a different company

Just wanting peoples feeling for long term of MQ now days with alternatives on market etc....
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't offer career or personal advice, for reasons obvious to anyone familiar with my career history or personal life.

My 2 cents:

Integration will live forever. Gone are the days where complex MQ topologies linked systems together A2A or B2B, drowned in a sea of HTTP on which we REST or wash with SOAP. Likewise complex flows linking endpoints with exotic data requirements become less common as we SWAGGER round with WSDLs. But the need to integrate, integrate reliably and troubleshoot such connections continues, only the technologies change.

In terms of pure MQ, I think the biggest challenge will be the rise of Kafka as a competing (and IBM endorsed) messaging technology.

Other viewpoints are equally valid and may be saner.
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rammer
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:

Integration will live forever. Gone are the days where complex MQ topologies linked systems together A2A or B2B, drowned in a sea of HTTP on which we REST or wash with SOAP. Likewise complex flows linking endpoints with exotic data requirements become less common as we SWAGGER round with WSDLs.


Have you thought of Patent such a quote!
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rammer wrote:
Vitor wrote:

Integration will live forever. Gone are the days where complex MQ topologies linked systems together A2A or B2B, drowned in a sea of HTTP on which we REST or wash with SOAP. Likewise complex flows linking endpoints with exotic data requirements become less common as we SWAGGER round with WSDLs.


Have you thought of Patent such a quote!


It gets better after more
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
Gone are the days where complex MQ topologies linked systems together A2A or B2B


Big IBM users are fairly conservative and working systems (aka MQ) are only decommissioned slowly (if at all) in favour of ones that work intermittently (aka http, ftp etc).

In terms of career, it might hinge on how many years you have left to run, if it's more than 10 years, then it might be wise to adopt the newer stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly my thoughts. How long will I work? Well you know how bad pensions are now in UK . But I think maybe 10 years or so!

I just find working on ibm middleware challenging and rewarding and have done for 17 years or so!

By way where are you in uk ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, that would be telling..... but currently working 200+ miles from home.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Ah, that would be telling..... but currently working 200+ miles from home.


Only guess your in Watford?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Ah, that would be telling..... but currently working 200+ miles from home.


Be glad - I'm about 4,000 away (and it was never Watford)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rammer wrote:
Only guess you're in Watford?


Nope. Although 200 miles from Watford is not far enough if you ask me...!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
Be glad - I'm about 4,000 away (and it was never Watford)


That's different, you don't commute 4,000 miles and your home (as opposed to hometown) is in that rebellious former colony.....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...some of us on here (ok, maybe just the one!) are originally from Watford...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But you don't live there now? Sort of proves the point...

I am sure Watford has lots of good points....Harry Potter for one.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Vitor wrote:
Be glad - I'm about 4,000 away (and it was never Watford)


That's different, you don't commute 4,000 miles and your home (as opposed to hometown) is in that rebellious former colony.....


Actuallyl not sure his home was part of the rebellious colony. Think it came later.

A bit erie, that.
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A bit erie, that.



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