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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:10 am    Post subject: Top 5 client features Reply with quote

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If you were working with a product with an embedded MQ Client that was *at least* MQ V8 - but you didn't know for sure what version it actually was...

What are the top 5 MQ Client features you would want supported?

EDIT:
To be more clear... What are the top 5 MQ Client features you would want to be able to configure/know you are using?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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    user id & password authentication on connection
    SSL authentication to at least TLSv1.1
    SSL encryption to at least TLSv1.1
    auto reconnect
    read ahead


In that order
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:

    user id & password authentication on connection
    SSL authentication to at least TLSv1.1
    SSL encryption to at least TLSv1.1
    auto reconnect
    read ahead


In that order


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Channel Table support

MQ Client version visible at MQ server

Exit Support

Full TLS(SSL) support, particularly SSLPEER


I wonder what you are really asking and why?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
I wonder what you are really asking and why?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
PeterPotkay wrote:
I wonder what you are really asking and why?

Perhaps I'm trying to make sure that such a system as described continues to be an easy sell to MQ admins...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
PeterPotkay wrote:
I wonder what you are really asking and why?


Why is everyone so suspicious of @mqjeff?

I thought it was just me......
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
hughson wrote:
PeterPotkay wrote:
I wonder what you are really asking and why?


Why is everyone so suspicious of @mqjeff?

I thought it was just me......

Well, suddenly up popped the M200* devices - maybe, just maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick?

Toss pebble in pond and watch ripples spread...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
maybe, just maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick?

Which "they" ... ?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
Which "they" ... ?

<insert name of favourite conspiracy theory boss here> of course! Who else could it be?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick?

Anything like that would surely be based on the existing latest MQ Client, and so would have all these features already (Just as MQ Appliance was based on the latest QMgr).

What could be being created that would require us to pick and choose features that have existed for years?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
exerk wrote:
maybe, they're thinking of MQ Client-on-a-stick?

Anything like that would surely be based on the existing latest MQ Client, and so would have all these features already (Just as MQ Appliance was based on the latest QMgr).

What could be being created that would require us to pick and choose features that have existed for years?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's nice to hear all these speculations. It should be much more obvious than that, for those paying attention ...

And, Morag, it's more a matter of making features visible and configurable.

As I said, it's an "embedded" MQ client, where you at least aren't *supposed* to muck about with the client config directly. And no guarantee/support if you do so.

Some of the things mentioned already exist and are configurable through a couple of means.

But some of them don't. I believe I have a fair idea of what most MQ Admins would want any client to allow them to configure. But I'm still looking to validate those assumptions with real data, so that I can either take things to stakeholders or find ways to cause them to appear anyway...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone else want to comment? It really will be helpful.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. I have seen cases where the status of SVRCONN shows the MQ Clinet version -- only to find out (sometimes after a lengthy investigation .... ) that the app (Java/JMS) is not really using the full installation of MQ Client but only the mq jars. It would be very helpful if there was a way of easily finding this out.

2. For APPLTAG or RAPPLTAG to show the actual App name for Java apps.

3. I wish it were possible to figure out the language that the app was coded in (C#, .NET etc..) from the qs or chs output.

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MR
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