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pandeg
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:28 am    Post subject: File which contains the details of MQ object in QMGR Reply with quote

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Hi, I am looking for the file in Queue Manager which contain the details of MQ objects such as channele details , Queue details , listener details. I am trying to find the list of error Queues , backout queues , DLQ, unused queues created for testing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: File which contains the details of MQ object in QMGR Reply with quote

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pandeg wrote:
I am trying to find the list of error Queues , backout queues , DLQ, unused queues created for testing.


And finding this through the MQSC commands / programmatically through PCF commands doesn't work for you because.....?

Also how would you identify an unused queue? As opposed to a queue with no messages that no one happens to be using at the moment?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: File which contains the details of MQ object in QMGR Reply with quote

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And finding this through the MQSC commands / programmatically through PCF commands doesn't work for you because.....?

Also how would you identify an unused queue? As opposed to a queue with no messages that no one happens to be using at the moment?


I am not sure how to find the unused queue, but may be by seeing any parameter which shows that this queue hasn't received any message since this time. In that way atleast I can know if it not used for this much duration and then check with the application Team to confirm.

Also, I have identified the DLQ and Application Backout Q, but not sure when to cleanup those queues as they are used by application team for analysis.
Do I need to check with them everytime before cleaning this DLQ and Error Q.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: File which contains the details of MQ object in QMGR Reply with quote

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pandeg wrote:
I am not sure how to find the unused queue, but may be by seeing any parameter which shows that this queue hasn't received any message since this time. In that way atleast I can know if it not used for this much duration and then check with the application Team to confirm.


And where do you see documented this "parameter which shows that this queue hasn't received any message since this time"? Post the link to the InfoCenter because I'm not aware of any such attribute for a local queue and I love finding out new things.

pandeg wrote:
Also, I have identified the DLQ and Application Backout Q, but not sure when to cleanup those queues as they are used by application team for analysis.
Do I need to check with them everytime before cleaning this DLQ and Error Q.


Of course you do. You can't just clean up messages off a queue that a team might be using.

The sensible solution would be to have procedures that unload messages off DLQs and backout queues into some kind of storage for analysis rather than leaving them there, but anyone that sensible would also have an inventory of queues generated from the creation and deletion process that identified their owners so you could ask them if they still needed them rather than this dubious discovery process based on a (probably) non-existent attribute.

(I hold out faint hope you'll introduce me to a new fact)
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Also, and for the record, there is no:

pandeg wrote:
file in Queue Manager which contain the details of MQ objects


even if the object does happen to have a "date last used" attribute.
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