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ANILK
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: TPS calculation Reply with quote

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HI Friends,

currently we are using WMB 8 and it is running in AIX .
1 source system is sending message to WMB through MQ. but WMB is routing same messages to 16 different target systems based on the source message type. WMB is sending messages to 16 target systems via (SOAP/JAVA/TCP/MQ/FTP) based on the external system requirement .


currently We have requirement to calculate system TPS and Application TPS.

Question 1 : 1 source messages is processed by 16 operations (message flows) in WMB , so do we need to consider 1*16 when we calculate TPS ?( if 100 messages per second from source system to WMB , 100*16 = 1600).


Question 2 : How to find out System tps , should i use "iosat" command ? how to get peek and average system tps ?

Client is planing to increase the message load so I need to find the current tps to compare the difference .

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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The performance reports are always helpful in figuring out how to do your own measurements.

TPS generally only accounts for the path actually taken by each message, rather than all possible paths a single message could take.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you mqjeff
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Johan26
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:07 pm    Post subject: current Reply with quote

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currently we are using WMB 8 and it is running in AIX .
1 source system is sending message to WMB through MQ. but WMB is routing same messages to 16 different target systems based on the source message type. WMB is sending messages to 16 target systems via (SOAP/JAVA/TCP/MQ/FTP) based on the external system requirement .
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: current Reply with quote

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Johan26 wrote:
currently we are using WMB 8 and it is running in AIX .
1 source system is sending message to WMB through MQ. but WMB is routing same messages to 16 different target systems based on the source message type. WMB is sending messages to 16 target systems via (SOAP/JAVA/TCP/MQ/FTP) based on the external system requirement .

Same question... same answer.
Ultimately what counts is the path end to end...
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mahashan13
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:03 am    Post subject: TPS -- How was it calculated Reply with quote

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Hi,

I have the similar requirement where I will have TPS limit per second. For eg, 16 target will have their own TPS.(Target 1 can accept only 30, Target 2 can accept 50,etc..). Any one here came across this kind of requirement? If yes can you share the knowledge here?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: TPS -- How was it calculated Reply with quote

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mahashan13 wrote:
Hi,

I have the similar requirement where I will have TPS limit per second. For eg, 16 target will have their own TPS.(Target 1 can accept only 30, Target 2 can accept 50,etc..). Any one here came across this kind of requirement? If yes can you share the knowledge here?

Quote:
The strength of a chain is the strength of its weakest link...

Do you have different scaling per target?
So if all your requests take the path of the slowest operation what is your max TPS?
The alternative is to get a statistical mix and a statistical forecast of the mix and make the calculations according to the mix.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you need to measure the performance rates? or enforce them? Newer versions IIB have the ability to enforce performance rates by limiting incoming messages.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I want to enforce TPS for each end point configured in flow. As mentioned TPS per end point will be dynamic.

And sadly the version we use is V8 now. In this version is there a way we can achieve this requirement, without doing any static value based throttling in flow?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's an excellent business requirement to justify upgrading to v9....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you Upgrade planning is going but will not be that soon (at least not before this requirement goes) . Let's keep eye on this thread to get view of other SME's also.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
It's an excellent business requirement to justify upgrading to v9....


V9? did we miss the announcement?

Still trying to get some sites off V6.0.2.x
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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smdavies99 wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
It's an excellent business requirement to justify upgrading to v9....


V9? did we miss the announcement?


IIBv9... and if you don't know that's out... then yes, you missed the announcement. And the announcement and GA of v10...
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