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LMD
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: IIB9 multi-instance broker problem with MQ service Reply with quote

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Hi all,

I am trying to configure a multi-instance broker on Linux.
I am running IIB 9.0.0.2 on MQ 7.5.0.2.

Broker LMD01 is defined on QM VA01, with "-d defined" (start broker with QM)
On "side A", the broker start with the QM.
I failover on side B (endmqm -s) but after the QM have restarted, the broker doesn't start.

On the stderr log file for the MQ service, i got :

Quote:
MQSI 9.0.0.2
/opt/ibm/mqsi/9.0.0.2

Failed to open file /var/mqsi/registry/LMD01BRK/HASharedWorkPath with error Permission denied
Failed to open file /var/mqsi/registry/LMD01BRK/HASharedWorkPath with error Permission denied
BIP8081 An exception was caught while processing the command, 'Unable to format an ImbException message for output, ImbException message number is BIP2113'.


But :
Quote:
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root mqbrkrs 19 Jul 11 16:05 HASharedWorkPath


and
Quote:
view /etc/group
mqm:x:504:root
mqbrkrs:x:10301:root,mqm

on both sides.

If I fail back again on A side, the broker start with the QM.

AFAIK, the two servers as configured with same permissions.

Any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Make sure the ids (sid) and groups (gid) are the same on both machines! And of course group membership...
Did you create the broker with the corresponding flag for accessing the shared path (-B I think)?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

uid, sid et membership are identicals.

When I do not use service (-d undefined), the broker works like advertised, so I doubt there is something with the shared path.

The broker has been created with :
on A side : mqsicreatebroker LMD01BRK -q VA01 -e /var/iibshared -d defined
on B side : mqsiaddbrokerinstance LMD01BRK -e /var/iibshared

The -b switch seems to be used for cachePolicy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry -B is a windows thing...

What is the content of the script starting the broker? (On both machines)
Is the user part of some sudo setup that is missing in the second machine?

Which user is starting MQ (rc.d) on both machines? I trust the qmgr is multi-instance as well?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes the QM is multi-instance, started by mqm.
The broker is started by the mq service.

When not using the mq service, the broker is started by root.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And yet
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSMKHH_9.0.0/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/be13660_.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes.
But I have a problem with :
Code:
Ensure that the IIB directories are owned by user and group mqbrkrs, and that the access permissions are set to rwx for user and group. For example ls -al displays:

drwxrwxr–x mqbrkrs mqbrkrs 4096 Jun 14 14:39 IIB


There is no mqbrkrs user on my systems, nor in any other place of the infocenter.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LMD wrote:
There is no mqbrkrs user on my systems, nor in any other place of the infocenter.


LMD wrote:

But :
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root mqbrkrs 19 Jul 11 16:05 HASharedWorkPath


and

view /etc/group
mqm:x:504:root
mqbrkrs:x:10301:root,mqm

on both sides.


Quote:
the access permissions are set to rwx for user and group

LMD wrote:
-rw-rw-rw-
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LMD wrote:


When not using the mq service, the broker is started by root.


If the Broker runs under the root Id then you are not starting it correctly.
the script invoked by root to start it should do something like

Code:

su -<brokerIDaccount> -c 'mqsistart <brokername>'


BrokerIDAccount is the user you specified when creating the broker. This is the account under which the broker will run. It should be setup with the mqbrkrs group as the primary group with mqm as a secondary group.
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The broker has been created with :
on A side : mqsicreatebroker LMD01BRK -q VA01 -e /var/iibshared -d defined
on B side : mqsiaddbrokerinstance LMD01BRK -e /var/iibshared

is IMHO where you are going wrong. You really need to define a username/password for the broker to run under. Running anything under 'root' is a really bad idea (and a huge security hole)

The IBM documentation is IMHO very deficient in this area. The examples they give are (again IMHO) very poor and can lead you to go down a number of dead ends.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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smdavies99 wrote:
You really need to define a username/password for the broker to run under.


On *unix*, the id that executes mqsistart is the id that runs broker. Always.

So it makes no difference what you pass to mqsicreatebroker. mqsistart will always run the broker as the user that is running mqsistart.

Unlike on windows, where mqsistart essentially starts the windows service that starts the broker.

smdavies99 wrote:
Running anything under 'root' is a really bad idea (and a huge security hole)

Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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smdavies99 wrote:
It should be setup with the mqbrkrs group as the primary group with mqm as a secondary group.

NO! Every ID in the mqm group should have the mqm group as their primary group because every object they create will implicitly grant the primary group full privileges to the object just created (*UNIX* only). Do it the other way around.

The only IDs that should ever be in the mqm group is the ID that runs MQ and the ID that runs the broker.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:39 am    Post subject: SOLVED: IIB9 multi-instance broker problem with MQ service Reply with quote

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After numerous tests, I finally solved this problem. It was not an ID problem or a rights issue.

On B side, a TCP / IP listener was started via a runmqslr (explicit mode) and remained active even after a switch:

Code:
-eaf ps | grep mq
mqm 2771 1 0 JUL09? 0:00:18 / opt / mqm / bin / amqzmgr0 -m LMD01
mqm 2968 2771 0 JUL09? 0:00:25 / opt / mqm / bin / r runmqlsr -m LMD01 t TCP


There were also AMQ9255 messages in amqerrlog:

Code:
AMQ9255: Listener already running.
EXPLANATION:
The request to start the WebSphere MQ listener failed Because there is already a listener running against the specified network resources.


I killed the runmqlsr process, and from there, the broker normally restarted in service mode on both sides after a switchover.

Now that the HA part of the broker is OK, I'm going to work on accounts and rights to use to start and manage all his.

Thank you all for your help.
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