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bcostacurta
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: How to verify correct client connection SSL encryption ? Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Dears,

how to verify a correct encryption on a client connection ?

Server platform is Solaris.
Clients platform are Solaris and Windows XP.

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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: How to verify correct client connection SSL encryption ? Reply with quote

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bcostacurta wrote:
Dears,


Yes darling?

bcostacurta wrote:
how to verify a correct encryption on a client connection ?


Start the connection.
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bcostacurta
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Well thanks for the 'darling' .. really appreciated as a mark of respect of course )

Yes I'm able to connect / open queue/ post message via a Perl script using MQCONNX as a MQ client with needed params like cipher, client channel name ..etc...

The script execution is fine and indeed I retrieve my message in the destination queue

But, after all, how to guarantee message flow is encrypted ?
Maybe a protocol sniffer ?

Or are the correct client connection (my script pause and I can see the client connection on the channel) and/or script execution really secure and enough for acceptance ?

This messaging architecture is dedicated to a financial environment and I would like to be sure I can promote it to the security and network dept. for production ready-to-go validation.

Thanks.
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Bruno
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A network sniffer would allow you to see the network flow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have serious concerns that IBM have in some way botched the implementation of this technology then you could try pulling the information off the wire.

Or you could try providing the wrong certificate and see if the channel still starts & messages flow normally. No, wait, you've already tested that (according to your previous posts).

Do you also plan to go through the queue manager logs to ensure persistent messages are being stored correctly?

WMQ is used by a large number of financial institutions, some sizeable and well known. I've set it up at a number of them. I tend to be more concerned that the certificates are handled & secured properly than the software working, as that's a much more realistic security risk and one more likely to engage the minds of this validation deptartment of yours.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe some sort of IP trace would show encrypted data.

I would be inclined to let the network or security team verify this over the network link, if they want to - since they would have the tools to do so.

If they don't have the tools then they can't prove it either way.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check out the Presentation section

The MQSeries SSL Tutorial, although for 5.3 contains instructions how to setup a non SSL connection with a port redirector and then how to enable SSL and then see the encrypted traffic flow... enjoy...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A network sniffer would allow you to see the network flow.

can you tell me what is network sniffer.
How network sniffer allow you to see the network flow?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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did you go to google and search for 'network sniffer'? what did your search reveal?
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