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Yannanlu
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:55 am    Post subject: Can a xmitq attached to two active channels? Reply with quote

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We are planning to set up load balance on the MQ network without implementing cluster. I am wondering if we can have two active channels share the same xmitq. If yes, we will have these two channels to do the load balance. Otherwise, we have to write our own channel exit for this purpose.

Any comment and suggestion will be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My understanding is that each channel(irrespective of type) opens the Xmitq, "exclusively", and hence there is no way you could have more than one channel point to the same xmitq. You could, but you cannot run both the channels at the same time.

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Yannanlu
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank for your reply. As you said that, is there any way to work around it?

How about to have two active channels sharing the same cluster xmitq in a cluster env?

As you know, in order to use load balance feature of a clustering, you have to have a cluster member that has no local queue for the target queue. This entry-point qmgr is a single-point failure. In our env, we have to have multiple entry-point qmgrs. This will increase the size of the cluster and increase the overhead.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thannks again,

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could you be more specific on your problem. I am unable to follow what you are upto.

Load balancing is done by MQ, you dont need to do anything. The simplest scenario for clustering is, say you have 2 Full repository and 2 partial repos. In the event of failure of any one of them, the failure info is shared between the rest of the active repos and they just carry on from there.

What's the point of having to point 2 channels to a single xmitq(be it regular or cluster chls). You could as well have 2 xmitqs. Xmitq's dont determine the entry points, its the MCA's. So in all cases, the xmitq is masked off.

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yaakovd
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, you can use blank channel in XMitQ and define multiple channels for this Queue. But in this case you cannot use triggering - it should be "OFF".
Then you can start wanted channel manually or using command.

Additional point: I guess inyour remote Q you defined primary QMgr, so on secondary QMgr you must have alias with name like primary to itself.
You must have exactly understanding of this point when you planning load ballancing.
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leongor
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Yaakov,
What you say it'll work for one of the two channels in the time.
The question was about two active channels sharing same xmitQ,
that cannot be done.
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yaakovd
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course, you are right. I recognized this point later
Actually, my point was arround this topic - just additional think...
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