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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
I checked my Norton Anti-Sarcasm log, and no sarcasm detected.

Ah but did you check it for sarchasm??

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Also a common mistake is to believe that MQ authorization on Unix is done at userId level. It is not. In fact if you set it at userid level it will be set for the primary groupid for that user... Not what you might want...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:

Also a common mistake is to believe that MQ authorization on Unix is done at userId level. It is not. In fact if you set it at userid level it will be set for the primary groupid for that user... Not what you might want...

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Another interesting fact is that if you define a new object using runmqsc from your personal userid, and your primary group is not mqm (ie. you get authority to do this because mqm is one of your secondary groups), MQ will create an OAM profile for your primary group to have full access to the object.

eg. If your primary group is 'allstaff', you have just given everyone on the system access to the MQ object.
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A very good point and it happens with GUI tools as well, just tested it with MO71 and my primary Unix group was granted access.

It would be handy if this behaviour could be controlled at the MQ level.
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and it happens with GUI tools as well

This is a UNIX behavior. Your entire group gets your privileges.
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just to throw another wrench in the works this also applies to domains whereby you could be local admin on your machine but not network and vice versa

for example on my machine i have mqexplorer and i am admin on my machine BUT some qms i can connect and edit but others i can only see due to shared machines and userids on set up etc
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