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| bduncan |
 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2001 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Location: Silicon Valley
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I am curious to find out from the MQSeries community what sort of need there is for MQSeries training. This could be as basic as teaching MQSeries concepts, something aimed at application developers who only need a basic working knowledge of MQSeries in order to integrate it into their applications, all the way to architecting complex MQSeries systems and design principles. The reason I ask is that some coworkers and myself are interested in exploring the possibility of offering MQSeries training courses. We have experience providing MQSeries training, but in the past have only offered our services when asked upon by firms rather than seeking them out. I know most of the people that use this site are experienced MQSeries professionals themselves, but I would also be interested in hearing how you came to be knowledgeable in MQSeries. Was it through trial and error, structured training courses, a mentor, etc?? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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| NickB |
| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Joined: 20 May 2001
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Location: Zurich Financial Services
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Brandon
As you know, there are many companies out there offering MQ Series training courses and I'm sure we've all attended one or more of these courses.
From a personal point of view I initially attended the 1 day overview which merely whets the appetite. After some time I then went on to do the admin course which really does teach you a lot.
However, there just is NO substitute for experience and until you've actually done something to solve a real business solution, you are merely dangerous! Having a mentor really helps but not all companies are in this position. In our organisation a couple of people were the MQ champions and were able to build up significant experience which they were then able to share with others in the organisation.
The MQ Listserver and the new MQ Series net are totally invaluable in problem solving and all MQ users should be encouraged to use these facilities.
Regarding training, what is really missing is a good async design course using MQ. You have the application programming course but this is at a micro-level rather than at a macro-level, i.e. you need the 20,000 feet view of designing async systems and all the issues this raises. I also think there is a need for a set of mini courses (perhaps one day each) focussing on such areas as:
- security
- clustering
- tuning your qmgr for performance
- designing applications for performance
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| sjackson |
| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Brandon -
I took a couple of the MQSeries courses and found them fairly useful. Most of what I learned about MQSeries initially was with the help of a mentor (I was lucky enough to have one), and simple trial and error. I think now I learn the most from simply browsing the MQSeries forums (like this one and the list server) than anything else.
As far as training goes, I’ve had clients that would rather bring in a consultant to “ramp-up” their staff in MQSeries concepts than send them to formal training. (Which is good for us consultants.) I agree that good system design courses would be the most useful.
Other than the topics already listed, I think a course in problem determination and resolution would be very useful to MQSeries administrators.
Hope this helps.
Scott Jackson
Leapnet, Inc.
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| MLT |
| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Being new to this forum I apologise if this is not correct etiquette however Alphacourt has a couple of courses running in September and October as listed below;
Alphacourt are hosting two separate MQ Application Programming course in Swindon over the next few weeks:
Tues25th - Friday 28th September IBM MQSeries application programming.
Course offered at a 10% discount of £1080 (usual Fee £1200)
Tues 23rd - Fri 26th Oct MQ application programming (Java)
Course fee £1200
The October course is preceded by a 1 day Intro to IBM MQSeries (Monday 22nd October).
Course fee £300
Please contact me or Michael Clayton for further details
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| amurugan |
| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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On 2001-08-28 16:24, bduncan wrote:
I am curious to find out from the MQSeries community what sort of need there is for MQSeries training. This could be as basic as teaching MQSeries concepts, something aimed at application developers who only need a basic working knowledge of MQSeries in order to integrate it into their applications, all the way to architecting complex MQSeries systems and design principles. The reason I ask is that some coworkers and myself are interested in exploring the possibility of offering MQSeries training courses. We have experience providing MQSeries training, but in the past have only offered our services when asked upon by firms rather than seeking them out. I know most of the people that use this site are experienced MQSeries professionals themselves, but I would also be interested in hearing how you came to be knowledgeable in MQSeries. Was it through trial and error, structured training courses, a mentor, etc?? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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There are lots of training courses being conducted by third part people.But i feel that getting hands on experience by working on the product is the best way.But from administration point of view i feel attending the courses especially those conducted by ibm and candle will definitely hep the mq admin personnel . I would also like to know where can i get trial version of mqseries workflow and integrator. |
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| msiegert |
| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 4:35 am Post subject: |
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I know most of the people that use this site are experienced MQSeries professionals themselves, but I would also be interested in hearing how you came to be knowledgeable in MQSeries. Was it through trial and error, structured training courses, a mentor, etc
Hi!
I took two MQ-Admin training courses hold by IBM which were quite good. But after two years of MQ experience there is still one thing I'm missing: a good security concept especially in conjunction with MQ Java Clients and a huge amount of users who often own multiple machines with changing IPs.
regards Marc
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